Friendship With Jeanine of The Random Rovers: How an Introvert Makes Friends on the Road | Community Spotlight

Hey there, you're back. Learned RV. This is our community spotlight series, and I'm here today with Janine Cadweller. Did I say that right?

Cadwalleter.

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay, so I have a last name like Skolachi, so I worry about stuff like that. But I know them as the roaming rovers. They have been on the road for a little bit, but we love to talk about the practical side of RV life here, the rigs, the routes, you know, and the repairs. But one of the questions we get most often, Janine replied to something on Facebook that I had put up about friendship on the road. And I think friendship looks so different for each one of us. So we're doing a YouTube series on it, just on the friendship side of it. But I thought, while I have Janine on the line, we will see if we can get her to do a full community spotlight at the same time. So we'll pull the nuggets from one and repurpose it for the other, and it'll be an amazing episode. But how do I make friends on the low road? Because let's be honest, leaving your neighborhood, your community, whatever that looks like for you, and she doesn't completely leave it, but we'll get into that. But this can be the hardest part of this lifestyle. Janine, welcome to the show.

Thank you. I'm glad to be here.

So we're excited because you know we love reaching outside of our niche just a little bit. And, you know, any RVer is in our niche, people that we don't know in real life. And I don't know you in real life. So this makes this a fun episode for me. So let's start with just getting you to tell us a little bit about yourself and your husband and how you got on the road.

My husband is Chad. And um, like you said, we um have a YouTube channel, very small one that we're just getting started called The Random Rovers. And we started because during my husband's career, we kind of followed his career, it brought us all over the country. So we've always been kind of on the move. The moving lifestyle is just part of our life. And so when he retired, we decided to get into the RV space. We had our own business for two years and allowed us to travel, meet other RVers and do that kind of stuff. And then he got back into consulting work and we're still traveling, meeting new people along the way. We do have a sticks and bricks still that we visit from time to time to take care of basic things, and then the rest of the time we go up to upstate New York, where we see our family for the summer. And then we just like to travel and see this great world, go to rallies, meet new people, that kind of stuff.

You know, I I think that we're a military family and we traveled all over the country. And I feel like I was very against doing this when I first got started. Like I told Frank I would never do this, like over my dead body, ever do this, and I'm still out here 13 years later. But the reality is I think that because you have a lifestyle that you weren't in the same place all the time, that this kind of does fit in some ways to that demographic. You know, we move every two to three weeks or every month. Usually two weeks is kind of our sweet spot, but it fits us. And so it does take some courage, though, walking away from something that is, you know, what society deems as stable and living on the road, whether you're full-time or part-time, I don't think, you know, there's like some kind of magic number of what makes you a full-timer, what makes you a part-timer. If your heart's in the RV, I think you're more of a full-timer than you think you are. But what did that transition look like for you guys? Because I know jumping into a business in the industry sometimes makes it feel like more work than fun.

Yes. It started out crazy like our life usually is. You know, for us, we always say the only consistent thing in life is change. We got our RV when my husband was still working, um and I was still working our primary jobs, um, our first careers, we call it, and we thought we'd be able to do a shakedown trip. Unfortunately, that did not happen. And so he retired and we had to sell the house, put stuff in storage, get the RV ready, and hit the road to go get trained for our um our new careers, having our own business. So we literally went from Virginia to Hot Springs, Arkansas. And that was our shakedown trip. That luckily everything went well with the rig, other than the fact of since it was a new rig to me, I managed to have to get used to sleeping in a new location. And with the way our camper's designed, they trim out the little cubby boxes next to the bed. So I rolled into it and actually smacked my face and got a big shiner. Here we are at a at a training thing with other people, and everyone's, you know, secretly wondering why I have a big shiner on my face. Um so that was a that was a conversation starter, a way to make some friends. Um and then uh from that we had a hop. We just were constant, we were just go, go, go. We were moving probably every three, four days. And so we did that. That was probably that was our life for pretty much the first year and a half to two years was we were never at a place more than a week. And it was always with time crunches and that kind of stuff. So we couldn't kind of go at our leisure. This past year has been our first time of being able to have that flexibility, which is nice. Um that's kind of how we got yeah, so that's how we kind of got started on on this truck of life.

Well, and I think that living that life where you're go, go, go, we end up like that in rally season because of our re-roofing solutions. You know, we have rallies we have to be at, and we're actually turning rallies down this year because we have to. We just, we just we don't want to do that every three days move as a small family-run business. You have to keep those things in mind and find that there's almost like a critical balance because without the community, you burn out, but the business depends on it, right? Like, so you're you're looking to make an income on the road. And for us, it's a little bit more complex because it's our teams, it's not us necessarily, but we're trying to find the work for our guys across the country. It's challenging, you know, living through just all of the extra, we'll call it extra, of the stress of all of that. I it can get almost overwhelming. But you've built a routine now around the new style, and so the consulting business is going well. But I think friendship is one of those things. So you could make instant friends with a shiner, maybe not for the right reasons, but you don't know. I think as I've gotten older, it's gotten harder to make friends because I think a lot of couples especially are not out like they'll go out and walk their dog or something like that. But if you don't catch them in that moment, a lot of times they're not going to the hot tub together or they're not going up and playing cards because they don't know anybody up there at the clubhouse. I think that that's a challenge. And so when I reached out initially, it was all about friendship. So we've got this YouTube series coming out about friendship on the road. And I think a lot of people out there in their houses or just starting RV life think, I'm gonna park next to some and they're gonna be my new instant best friend because that's what Instagram tells me. What really happens like on the road with you guys? How do you find friends?

So my husband is usually the one that starts most of the friendships. He's more extroverted than I am. He'll see somebody out doing something and he'll just strike up a conversation. You know, where are you from? How's it going? If you see somebody struggling with something, he'll say, Hey, can I have can I lend a hand? And we've also had that when we've been setting up or something or working on something, and people will come up and say, Can you help me with this? or can you show me how to do that? So that gives you a lot of opportunities to start those friendships. Other times it's just like you said, you're out walking and getting some some distance in and you see people. Or I think it's important to not just stay held up in your rig. Um, if you can, if the weather lets you sit outside, be outside, that just opens you up to those opportunities. Even when you like go do your laundry, just have a smile on your face and just kind of look more open and like that you're not just so focused on what you're doing that you're that you seem closed off. And then just basic niceties. You know, you see somebody trying to get into a door, you open the door for them. You do that kind of and that kind of just kind of opens those situations so that you can then try to carry on a conversation.

Absolutely. You know, I I think I I used to call it laundry room ministry because I think laundry rooms are a great way to meet people. So put your phone down, you know, and actually interact with people, find a magazine or something so that you don't look so busy, you're not engageable. I think it was so much easier when my kids were little. My youngest is now 14. You know, when we hit the road, they were uh 15 months and not quite three. And so, you know, I think it was so much easier to go to the playground and then I'd find other moms. They were 10 years younger than me at least, but I'd find other moms. I think now that I'm in my early 50s, I think it's harder, especially since COVID. I think people are more standoffish, if you will. I did some digging uh the last couple weeks looking in the into the series. And you know, after the age of 40, you're you're likely to only meet one friend every five years. That statistic was crazy to me because as an RVer, we meet many more people than that. But I also don't think that when you meet someone initially that you have an instant connection necessarily, sometimes you do. And those are rare and they're amazing. But sometimes it's the second or third time that you meet up with somebody that you're like, you know, I really like these people. I need to go out to dinner with them the next time we see them. Hey, where are you gonna be in three months? You know, that sort of thing. But I think loneliness can be an aspect in a community. And so how do you deal with loneliness on the road?

Um, I think part of it is just for me at least, you have to be intentional. So I actually have to schedule myself time to keep up those connections. And so that can help with the loneliness because whether, you know, if you even if you can't see the person face to face because you're, you know, hundreds of miles apart, you can send them a message through Facebook Messenger, through texting. Um, you can pick up the phone and call them if you kind of know their schedule. And so I think that's just the big thing is to be intentional. I have I have two friends that we meet via Zoom link and what you know, once, once a month or once every other month and try to talk and just connect and and share, share what's going on in our lives on a more personal level than just texting and messaging and you know, reading about each other's life on Facebook. I think that's the other part of it is that I know for me, one of my goals this year is to be more intentional about when I meet people and I feel like there might be a connection to actually take that next step of saying, Do you have a Facebook account or Instagram or something where we can connect that way? Or, you know, do you mind sharing your email or your phone number or something just because I'd love to keep keep finding out where you're headed or what's going on in your life.

So we have a couple text chats with some friend groups, and sometimes they sit for months at a time, but we'll pick up group chat and like, hey, where's everybody at this week? And so like it's random and it's wild. It's almost like no days go by when that happens. But the other side of it is, you know, those Facebook friendships, you can see people like getting together, like that Instagram real style, right? And so everybody and then, you know, if you can't be there, sometimes it can make you feel lonely. Do you ever experience that? Sometimes, like that FOMO, you know, like you're missing out.

Yeah, it's like I said, my my husband is more the the social butterfly, so he experiences it more than than I do. Like I said, like you said too, you know, people will put in, you know, where they're headed or this or that. And sometimes we have that's why we say random rovers, because we really truly are random. He will suddenly decide that he wants to go meet up with people, and next thing I know, we've got a 600-mile trip plan that wasn't on the schedules, you know, that kind of thing. So that's one of the things of having that flexibility, which we're fortunate enough to have, to be able to say, Oh, we know a group of people that we're friends with and we haven't been able to see in a while, they're gonna be in this location. Let's make it happen. And we just make it happen. You know, we actually know why he was talking about of an event that was going on in Las Vegas and he wasn't sure if he wanted to go or not. And then all of a sudden I said to him, Uh, you do realize that it's Thursday, the event's Saturday, if we're going, because we're gonna fly for that one. We need to have plane tickets. We need to be on the plane on Friday. And so Thursday night, we booked the tickets and we were on the plane Friday morning getting over to Vegas for four days to see friends that we had connected with on the road and whatnot. And we truly are random and just kind of fly by the feedback.

Yeah. I love that. You know, you don't wait for the community to come to you. You go to the community. We have to be intentional with our teens. Last spring we had prom in South Fork, Colorado. Our oldest traveling with us um is 19. So she was 18 last year when we went, you know, 15 and 13. So they were all old enough to go to a homeschool prom. And we got there, and a couple days later, we're booked for the month with these friends. And this was what I call a drop-dead date on our calendar. And those drop-dead dates become like we book everything else around it. So we did no rallies during that event. It was a rally. We weren't there to work, we were there to play. And so we were there and we just kind of took the blinders off and we still ran the business from wherever we were. We just didn't commit to any rallies while we were up there. Planting those seeds and not having community come to you, you make decisions that you're gonna go to that community is a hundred percent critical. Now, when we first talked on the phone, you said you're more of an introvert. You probably probably have some hobbies and some things that you do to keep very busy and you're perfectly content doing those things. But what does it look like for you? I mean, my husband's married to an extrovert. And so, like, I need those people. So, how do you manage that on the road? You know, does he drag you to things or does he let you opt out?

Pretty much drag me to things that at times, but it's not like a hard drag. I mean, uh, he just says he wants to do it, and I and I'm good with that or open with that. I'm just like if I if there's something I want to do, I let him know. And unless it's an arts and crafts thing, he's he's all for it. But like you said, hobbies-wise, that's one of the things too that's nice is that you know, if you see somebody working on a hobby that kind of gives you an opening for conversations, also, I do love because I love arts and crafts, all pretty much all kinds of arts and crafts. So that has that has given me a good connection to meeting people, talking to people, even if it's just sitting down and sharing pictures of projects that we've done on our phones. One of the places that we stay at in the summer, we stay all summer at, and it's a campsite that are that are is owned, and it's actually where we're at right now, pretty much when the weather is warm because we're actually in a cold spell right now, but they'll have bonfires. You know, you we know that every Saturday night there's going to be a bonfire at one of the locations, and then there's usually smaller ones in different places. And and for us, it's usually having to have to pick between ones to go to versus you know, not know not having any options. So we'll sit and we kind of try to rotate so that we're visiting with all of all of our people here and spending time and getting to know people. I think that's the the other big part of it is that now when you're trying to get to know people, is besides sharing about yourself and your life, asking those questions to get people to open up and share about their life so that you can kind of build that rapport.

I tend to talk a lot. So I have to stop and think about not talking and asking those questions sometimes. You know, as an extrovert, you're you want to share, but you don't want to overshare. I had to learn that and I really learned it on the road because finding value in those friendships and making people feel valued is just as important as finding the people. Let's get a little practical here, because some of our listeners out there may not have made some connections yet. What are your top strategies? And I know we've talked about a few of them for finding your people on the road. What would you say that looks like for you personally? If your husband was not part of that equation. Ooh, that got tough.

I know. That is tough. Part of it is I wouldn't call it eavesdropping, but sometimes when you're in a group of, you know, where there's a group of people chit-chatting, kind of just hit listening for those keywords of things that are of interest to you. I'm like, if like I said, like if they're talking about arts and crafts, or if they're talking about, you know, if you're a dog lover or whatever, that can kind of give you an in so that when you encounter that person, you can be like, you know, I I happen to hear that you have a dog, or, you know, I so you see the person with the dog, or that you're into arts. That's kind of an opener for me to kind of talk to people. The other thing too is usually, in all honesty, people who have children and dogs, even though I am um an empty nester, my son is gonna be uh 22 this summer. I worked with enough kids in my lifetime to have those connections of sometimes it's as simple as saying, like, oh, your child is so well behaved, or you know, great manners, or this just looking for openings. Um, so that's kind of another thing is just trying to help if somebody's doing, you know, looks like they're struggling. Those are kind of my big ins kind of thing. I don't have a I don't have a hard and fast charity. That's a tough question.

Yeah, I know. So one of the things that we encounter a lot because we do still travel with kids, is people that are empty nesters that don't approach us. And so even though Frank and I are in our early 50s, they'll look at us and see the teenagers and go, oh, well, they've they're here with their family. What they don't know is that we've been doing this for 13 years and our kids game in the evenings. And a lot of times they leave us on our own for dinner and they'll make ramen and they'll be on their own. But I don't typically show up at a campground anymore looking for friends. And I think that I've almost broken that, even for an extrovert. But I do try to be a good neighbor. So, for example, if I have a somebody that's next to me that's mean to me, our first year on the road, a woman by the name of Kimberly said to me, Be kinder. And I was like, What? She actually would say, Bake them some cookies, bring them over some flowers, and so just be nicer. And so sometimes it sounds crazy, but I think since 2020, I think the whole world has shifted. And since we've been on the road on both sides of that coin, I can tell you less people meet up at a clubhouse or whatever, especially if you're a newcomer to the area. Opening up your campfire, the campground idea with the campfires is such an amazing one because it's an open invitation to come say, hi, what are you guys doing? You know, and and so leaving that open, I think that's so intentional and so beautiful. What about a niche community? Do you think you have one of those that's like in any of the groups? Like if you're somewhere for the summer, do you connect better there and then look forward to going back? Because we don't have any campgrounds like that in our network. We just have locations where we meet up with friends intentionally. So we'll all say, you know, hey, let's meet up at Christmas at Thousand Trails Orlando, and we'll have this group chat that'll talk for six months about getting there.

Yeah. So for us, the the challenges is it kind of the campground area became a back way because we had to travel so much, um, relocate for my husband's career, number one, that sent us all over the country. We were away from our families for 23 years, other than you know, all our vacations were spent visiting families. My family and my husband's family were like within an hour of each other. We wanted somewhere where we could kind of have a home base. You know, our families did say, Oh, you could, my brother said, you could stay at our place and just boondock kind of thing, you know, hook up to our utilities, which is nice, but sometimes you just want your own space. So when we went on the hunt, the first the first season, we just did, you know, one of those month-to-month rentals at a regular RV park. And then we stumbled upon this campground where you can buy your lot. You have a deeded spot and you're one whatever number of lots there is owner of the whole campground. And so that is kind of its own community. The hardest part that we have is oftentimes they'll want to invite us to things, birthday celebrations, go out to dinner, this and that, and we try to schedule them in because our families want us to spend all our time with them. And so that's our biggest struggle in the summer is you know, trying to make sure that we have some time here and explain to our families, well, we have a community here, and so we still need to connect with them, but we still and we want to see you and try to get some work done.

So that kind of and do the laundry and go grocery shopping, you know. We have to schedule those too. Yeah. Yeah. So people that people that don't live this lifestyle just don't understand that yes, we still do laundry, yes, we still clean the house. It's smaller, but we still clean it. We still have a job to do. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, but don't underestimate the power of consistency. So going back to that one location, you've got friendships that a lot of us that are more nomadic don't have in that way. And I think there's a lot of listeners out there that can relate to that, that either have a house that they go back to in either the winter or the summer, because you've got snowbirds in Florida. So, you know, people go back to their houses, and you know, and some of those people have campers that they take seasonally to campsites. So I think that that's really neat. When we met Tasha, we haven't known her forever. And we met her a couple of years ago. She was actually at a grand design rally with us and she bought our roof. And so she was a client first. And and we don't do that often, but it just worked out that way. What she says would meant so much to her was that Frank actually let her come up on the roof with him and do the inspection with her so she knew what to look for. And we don't push anybody. We're family owned and operated, we have plenty of work. So two weeks go by, she's finally approves it. I'm like, wow, they approved it. And she goes, Well, there's one condition. I want you guys to be the one that do it. Great. So Frank doesn't get Frank gets requested all the time. But we turn a lot of those down and pass them off to the team because we have teams across the country. But this one, I was like, I I want to go hang out with Tasha for a week. So we met up in Texas to do the install and it started what we call a beautiful friendship. What was wild is our girls, who were 17 and 19 at the time, met that day and they hung out for like five hours and put a puzzle together. And so when my daughter got home, I said, How'd it go? And she goes, It was great. And when her daughter got home, she said, Oh, it was good. And then we would find out that they didn't talk for five hours. They just had a puzzle. And so for an introvert like you, my my kid is more introverted, that probably makes a lot of sense. For me, I'm going, Do you want to see each other again? And they're like, Yeah. And I'm like, Okay. So it's it's just different for everybody. And and and you have to kind of learn what that looks like. That's the hard part of RV friendships. They're not all just campfires and spores, right? What about goodbyes? How do you do that? We don't do goodbyes, so we do see you later.

That's what we do also. And that's I think that's the part that I, like I said, I had that goal this year to try to work on more is that saying goodbye section. Because sometimes we'll leave a site and you know, you're wrapped up with trying to get stuff tidied up, picked up, go through your checklist, do all that kind of stuff, and you say goodbye, but or see you later, which is what we say, and then you're like an hour down the road and you're like, I didn't get their contact information. And then you're trying to look them up on Facebook, and you know, they have a name that has 30 other profiles, and you're trying to figure out which one looks like them to try to send a connection. You're like, darn it. So that's that's one of the big things is I think that besides this the see you later and making sure you carve out that time to say the see you later and not just get so wrapped up in having to have to hit the road by a certain time that you walk off and say nothing is to get that contact information. And so for me, especially trying to make to sure I get that contact information before the last day, because then you're not trying to keep that on your plate, too. Yeah. So I think that's that's the the biggest thing. Sometimes I mean, one of our friendships that we made, we actually were both headed in the same kind of the same direction. And we said, Okay, well, we hadn't made our campground stay yet. We said, Well, where are you staying? And they said, Oh, we're going to this this RV park. We're like, Okay, well, we'll see you there. And so we right then and there made a new reservation and we went and spent a few more days with them. So um, when you can do that, that's nice too.

Let's circle back for just a second on your being an introvert statement because I think that that's a lot of people on the road. Um, I love to share this story. So our first year on the road, we went to something called a road schooling rally with full-time families. And that was when I met one of my best friends on the road. Her name is Stephanie. So I get to her door, and I'm, you know, I'm an extrovert, so I'm not afraid to go knock on someone's door. It's 2014. It's fine, right? And so I'm like this. And her daughter, who's seven, shows up at the door and she says, You may not knock on my door. You know, like I'm being scolded by a seven-year-old, but I'm just saying. And she's like, You have to text my mom or call her or give her some idea because my mom doesn't do people without no notice. And I was like, Oh, that's such a beautiful sentiment. So I learned very early on that I had to change my personal dynamic with introverts. And I was fortunate enough to be trained by my friend Stephanie and her husband Jason. Jason is a super extrovert, just like me. Sometimes it would be Jason and I sitting. out of the campfire and our spouses would be inside and the kids would be running around us and that was okay. What would you tell someone that's an introvert that maybe is nervous about stepping in that gap? What kind of advice would you give?

I would say it's probably easiest for you to surround yourself with extroverts because that kind of gives you the in. So it takes so you have less work on your part. That's what I tend to do. I usually welcome like if somebody I'm not going to be one to go knock on someone's door, but if someone knocks on my door, I'm more I'm more open to that because they're taking that effort to do that. Introverts definitely, it takes us more work. We have to we have to be very more mindful and really put focus and effort into getting outside our our little box and putting ourselves out there and that kind of stuff. And a lot of times I mean I can only speak of my own my own self. I can stand up in front of a crowd and speak. I used to train people and I had no problem with that. I'm fine with once I'm kind of in a conversation, carrying on a conversation. It's just that initial getting it started part. And um when it's like a very a small group or a one-on-one kind of kind of thing. So I think you just have to be willing to put yourself out there. Because I think that's the big fear factor is you're going to put you're going to say something and it's like okay what are they going to think about it? Or are they going to be mean to mean in a you know loose sense of the word mean you know just like kind of blow you off or not want to engage and then how do you kind of go from there? Because it you have that happen to you a couple times and you're like, okay, well people don't want to talk to me. You know, for whatever reason people don't want to talk to me.

So I think it's we're also kind of our own worst enemy in that situation. Yes. I think, you know, even as an extrovert so I tend to be the person that says something that I shouldn't have said that comes out wrong that everybody laughs and I'm like what did I just say? And so like there's moments in my life where everybody's laughing at me because I said something that either has some kind of connotation to it that I didn't mean that way at all, but it just came out that way. And so sometimes I end up in that position as an extrovert because I'm just trying to be relatable and it bites me in the butt. So I get that too. But you know I think one of the things is you know I think you know 13 years on the road there's not a lot of people out there like me anymore. I think the other side of it is you have to keep putting yourself back in the ring because other people are going to come off the road. And I don't know if you've dealt with a loss like that where friendships have faded as they've gotten off the road or just because life, you know, and and your circumstances change. I know there's friends that we've tried to meet up with on the road because we're still on the road as we're driving through somewhere that got off the road two or three years ago that it just doesn't connect because they're so busy now. And so I think that road life lends itself more to those connections in so many ways. It's just one of those different things it's kind of a don't be a stranger mentality on the road where I think once you go back to a house that you almost lose some of that. Not because you mean to just because life's busy I mean like when you're home, you know, you're trying to balance everything it's the same thing for a lot of people when they go back home. Let's talk about where folks can find you guys because you know we love sharing the smaller channels and kind of what that looks like for you guys.

This year do you have any rallies planned where people can meet you or do you have any big events that you're going to well we are going to the R Ving in London rally and that's I think June 4th. And then we're going to the national rally for grand design. So we'll see you then we'll get back. Oh good yay so those are the two rallies that we have on the books right now. We are looking to possibly go to some others. We have one rally that we really enjoy going to is outside of Washington DC and that's Grand Design as well because we do we have um we actually have two grand design rigs but that we're right now we have a schedule conflict. So we're trying to trying to work that one out. Yeah so that's the the two places that we have on the books at the moment.

And Grand Design puts on a good rally. If you have a Grand Design and you haven't gone to a grand design rally I'm going to tell you they're all different national rally's huge and there's usually a waiting list but the smaller ones are nice because you know I'm going to say the word intimate there's going to be a hundred rigs or more at most of them but it's still more intimate than 600 rigs. So you know it depends. But I think Grand Design does such a great job even at nationals if you've never been to nationals and you own a grand design what they do is they have a host for each section. So there's like a section, B section, C section. And what's neat is those hosts kind of run their section 30 to 50 rigs in each section roughly you know that sounds about right yeah and so those connections are different because it's more intimate and I think that those hosts do such a great job of bringing that community get together in those spaces. They kind of knock on the door virtually you know in a different way.

Well and and I think like you were you know talking about rallies I think that's a great way especially if you are kind of more introverted is a great way to meet people because you know you have meals together where there's a table of six to eight people you sit down for me my natural tends to be like oh let me sit at an empty table but I've been pushing well my husband is definitely not that way. So we we always sit at a table with other people and we're always like is anyone sitting here no and then that kind of helps that opens it up because now you're in a smaller setting and you can have that conversation and then you continue to see them throughout the rally. So I mean that's the rallies are a great way to meet people if you're when you're on the road.

All right. So where can people find you Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram Facebook and YouTube um and we're at the random rovers. And then um if they wanted to connect with you personally, you know they can send you a message through like Facebook or something directly through the Random Rovers. Correct. Okay perfectly awesome well you've heard it from Janine. I just want to thank you for coming on today you know and sharing just a little bit of your journey. You know it's it's always intimidating to come on and you know talk one on one with somebody but I think that that's the magic of this lifestyle and hopefully we'll be able to sit down and have a coffee or something when we get to Grand Design together.

Yes that would be great. And also um for another contact if people want to email us where um the email is therandomrobers at gmail dot com. So they can always connect awesome they can always send an email. Yeah. But yeah I really hope we can connect um I'd love to sit down and and talk with you some more so that's the heart of learn to rv is the people that are in it.

And so a year ago March of 2025 I bought learn to rv and we started building this network of people. So that's why people come in and write with Learn to RV. Learn to RV is not just about me. If you're listening maybe you don't know that when I brought Tasha in initially it was one of those hey I need more than just me to be the voice of Learn to RV. But it's true for the blog and the website too. And so if you're out there listening hey I'm not connected and I want to be connected there are community groups and they're free. They're Facebook community groups you can go join them. If you want a deeper connection we have writing opportunities blogging opportunities for people and if you have a business we let you have like a whole profile and we'll take you where wherever it goes but that community is important to me. Your YouTube channel you know all you have to do is produce one 10 minute video once every two months for us and you too can be one of our featured YouTubers. And so like there's lots of different ways to get connected but on the inside of that there's actually a community that we keep that's a special community on the inside there's no cost to it it's just a participation award if that makes sense. But it gets keeps you connected to different people that you might not otherwise meet. Learn to RV, go to learn to rv.com uh it'll take you to the whole ecosystem and then just wander around there. There's 300 pages or so and so it can feel a little overwhelming. And if you need something just shoot me a message uh learn to rv at gmail.com. Thanks. We'll see you around the campfire next time. Thanks Jenny thank you